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00:00:00 - Introduction. Mr. Chaudoir and Mr. Jeanquart fished together for many years, and here they recall those times. They are brothers-in-law; Mr. Chaudoir is the brother of Mrs. Jeanquart. Their wives and Mrs. Chaudoir's parents, the Engleberts, occasionally join in the conversation. The technique used involved playing a small portion of the original tape, after which the Chaudoirs gave a rough translation in English. The process was complicated by the fact that Mr. Chaudoir is partially deaf. 00:00:52 - Walloon. Description of Chaudoir's dock, its former role in the community. 00:02:15 - Description of Chaudoir's Dock, its former role in community. 00:02:50 - Walloon. Father sells dock and begins farming. 00:03:28 - Father sells dock and begins farming. 00:03:44 - Walloon. Father buys mill later. 00:04:15 - Father buys mill later. 00:04:38 - Walloon. Land division in family; Mr. Harry Chaudoir buys one of his father's farms, his brother John buys another, and a third brother, Francis, buys the store at the feed mill. 00:04:56 - Land divisions in family; Mr. Harry Chaudoir buys one of his father's farms, his brother John buys another, and a third brother, Francis, buys the store at the feed mill. 00:05:31 - Father and uncle built Chaudoir's Dock. 00:05:38 - Walloon. Uncle sold share to his father and moved to Long Lake. 00:05:54 - Uncle sold share to his father, and move to Long Lake. 00:06:11 - Walloon. Began fishing with his father and when "big enough" fished for themselves. 00:06:30 - Began fishing with his father and when "big enough" fished for themselves. 00:06:43 - Walloon. Fished pound, gill, and drop nets. 00:07:11 - Fished pound, gill and drop nets. 00:07:23 - Walloon. Remembers fishing with father (65 year ago), when took water from bay to make coffee. 00:07:34 - Fished herring, shipped to Chicago. Brought them to stage in Brussels. 00:07:50 - Walloon. Fished smelt with Harvey Jeanquart; also shipped to Chicago. 00:08:06 - Fished smelt with Harvey Jeanquart; also shipped to Chicago. 00:08:18 - Walloon. Sold smelt to Schilling and Johnson Companies in Green Bay until a truck began to come around and pick up the fish. 00:08:33 - Sold smelt to Schilling and Johnson Companies in Green Bay until a truck began to come around and pick up the fish. 00:08:46 - Walloon. Fished with pound nets, used horses. 00:09:19 - Fished with pound nets, used horses. 00:09:31 - Walloon. Stayed home on stormy days. 00:09:49 - Stayed home on stormy days. 00:10:01 - Walloon. Covered horses with a robe to keep them warm. 00:10:19 - Covered horses with a robe to keep them warm. 00:10:32 - Walloon. Made fire in stove in shanty. 00:10:42 - Made fire in stove in shanty. 00:10:52 - Walloon. Shanty divided by stove in center. 00:11:02 - Shanty divided by stove in center. 00:11:15 - Walloon. How they lifted nets. 00:11:27 - How they lifted nets. 00:11:52 - Walloon. Lifting nets, continued. 00:12:11 - Lifting nets, continued. 00:12:34 - Walloon. "...and plant potatoes; in order to feed the people." 00:12:58 - Mr. Englebert asks them to describe the difference between pound and gill nets. 00:13:58 - Set pound nets at spawning reef. Set pound nets at spawning reef. 00:14:07 - Walloon. Nets 200 feet long; summer fishermen's nets 500 feet. Call them box nets. 00:14:25 - Nets 200 feet long; summer fishermen's nets 500 feet. Call them box net. 00:14:49 - Walloon. For their own use, don't need such long nets for under the ice. 00:14:57 - For their own use, don't need such long nets for under the ice. 00:15:07 - Walloon. Modernizing: Commission "gave them the chance" to use different nets. 00:15:26 - Modernizing: Commission "gave them the chance" to use different nets. 00:15:36 - Walloon. Started fishing drop (of hoop) nets. 00:15:42 - Started fishing drop (or hoop) nets. 00:15:47 - Walloon. Took fish alive. 00:16:04 - Took fish alive. 00:16:29 - Different sizes of hoop nets; describes the types. 00:16:41 - Walloon. Took rough fish, later took perch. 00:17:02 - Took rough fish, later took perch. 00:17:12 - Walloon. Large and small sized nets. 00:17:24 - Large and small sized nets. 00:17:31 - Walloon. Have to follow legal sizes (nets). 00:17:43 - Have to follow legal sizes (nets). 00:18:04 - Now have to use 2 1/2 inch mesh for perch. 00:18:12 - Walloon. If want to get bigger fish, you use a larger size mesh. 00:18:21 - If want to get bigger fish, you use a larger size mesh. 00:18:27 - Walloon. Fish get entangled in nets, which have to be lifted often so fish don't spoil. 00:18:44 - Fish get entangled in nets, which have to be lifted often so fish don't spoil. 00:18:54 - Walloon. Sometimes lift even in poor weather. 00:19:06 - Sometimes lift even in poor weather. 00:19:13 - Walloon. Snow sometimes drifts in nets. 00:19:27 - Snow sometimes drifts in nets. 00:19:38 - Walloon. Lots of work involved. 00:19:47 - Lots of work involved. 00:19:53 - Walloon. "We can take a lot of fish in them, if we're lucky enough." 00:20:03 - "We can take a lot of fish in them, if we're lucky enough." 00:20:09 - Walloon. Pound nets are a gamble; you don't have to lift them so often. 00:20:22 - Pound nets are a gamble; you don't have to lift them so often. 00:20:31 - Walloon. Repeats: not having to lift them so often if the weather not "so nice." 00:20:42 - Repeats: not having to lift them so often if the weather not "so nice". 00:20:49 - Walloon. Lots of times caught nothing in pound nets. 00:21:03 - Lots of times caught nothing in pound nets. 00:21:10 - Walloon. Most caught was 6500 (pounds?), mostly smelt and small herring. 00:21:22 - Most caught was 6500 (pounds?), mostly smelt and small herring. 00:21:28 - Interviewer's question: Who did which job? 00:22:10 - Walloon. "The years went fast for us; too fast." 00:22:20 - "The years went fast for us; too fast." 00:22:25 - Walloon. Fish Commission changed the laws. 00:22:37 - Fish Commission changed the laws. 00:22:43 - Walloon. Biggest mistake Commission made was to pass a law that nets had to be 1/4 mile from shore. 00:22:55 - Biggest mistake Commission made was to pass a law that nets had to be 1/4 mile from shore. 00:23:04 - Walloon. In Door County, "we all know that" all rough fish are on shore. 00:23:18 - In Door County, "we all know that" all rough fish are on shore. 00:23:25 - Walloon. No game fish in wintertime on shore; all in deeper water. 00:23:36 - No game fish in wintertime on shore; all in deeper water. 00:23:43 - Walloon. Different sizes of hoop nets; describes the types. 00:23:51 - Couldn't even catch a sucker on shore. 00:23:57 - Walloon. Repeats: biggest mistake that they must stay 3/4 mile from the shore (discrepancy in distance). 00:24:07 - Repeats: The biggest that they made was that they must stay 3/4 mile from shore (discrepancy in distance). 00:24:22 - Walloon. Too many lawyers now; can't set for whitefish. 00:24:31 - Too many layers now; can't set for whitefish. 00:24:38 - Walloon. Harry Ross got 100 pounds of lawyers with his whitefish net. 00:24:56 - Harry Ross got 100 lbs. of lawyers with his whitefish net. 00:25:03 - Walloon. They didn't get as many; were lucky if "we got two nets in." 00:25:12 - They didn't get as many; were lucky if "we got two nets in". 00:25:20 - Walloon. Lawyers are rough on whitefish nets. 00:25:31 - Lawyers are rough on the whitefish nets. 00:25:39 - Walloon. Repeats: Lawyers are rough on nets. 00:25:47 - Repeats: Lawyers are rough on the nets. 00:26:02 - Walloon. Pollution crowded fishermen out. 00:26:12 - Pollution crowded fishermen out. 00:26:17 - Walloon. Sports and commercial fishing. 00:26:30 - Discuss briefly sports and commercial fishing. 00:26:36 - Walloon. Difficult to translate: concerning the DNR. 00:27:05 - Walloon. When lifting nets, like a blanket with the sulfur that sticks to them. 00:27:16 - When lifting nets, like a blanket with the sulfur that sticks to them. 00:27:25 - Walloon. "Those conditions came quicker than we expected." 00:27:34 - "Those conditions came quicker than we expected." 00:27:38 - Walloon. "The people that are fishing are like those that milk the cows." 00:27:53 - "The people that are fishing are like those that milk cows." 00:27:58 - Walloon. 00:28:06 - "...and plant potatoes; in order to feed the people." 00:28:18 - Walloon. "We can be controlled, but there is a limit." 00:28:27 - "We can be controlled, but there is a limit." 00:28:53 - Walloon. "Some people will take it on the good side, some on the bad side." 00:29:05 - "Some people will take it on the good side, some on the bad side." 00:29:22 - Remembers fishing with father (65 years ago), when took water from Bay to make coffee. 00:29:38 - Walloon. Water's dirty enough without the coffee! 00:29:48 - Water's dirty enough now without the coffee! 00:29:59 - Walloon. The color would be there, but he's not sure about the taste. 00:30:16 - The color would be there, but he's not sure about the taste. 00:30:20 - Walloon. After all the work and trouble still had a good time. 00:30:30 - After all the work and trouble, still had a good time. 00:30:36 - Walloon. He enjoyed that; some days worked hard, some days didn't. 00:30:45 - He enjoyed that; some days worked hard, some days didn't. 00:30:50 - Walloon. Wishes it were then; once wood made by hand, now by machine. 00:31:08 - Wishes it were then; once made wood by hand, now by machine. 00:31:24 - Walloon. (Women) used to make pails full of sandwiches and coffee. 00:31:36 - (Women) used to make pails full of sandwiches, and coffee. 00:31:45 - Walloon. Did cores beforehand; when out on bay, everything tasted good. 00:31:56 - Did chores beforehand; when out on the Bay, everything tasted good.