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00:00:00 - Feelings about "working out" (continued) as opposed to fishing and farming. Earlier fishing paid extra money for taxes, etc. on the farm which now are earned by another job.

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00:00:39 - Pollution. Bugs in water; "green Bay flies." Fish that turned yellow were indicator that bugs were there.

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00:02:15 - Fish reports. Much book work involved in fishing. Feelings about role of the state.

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00:04:07 - Selling locally. Father smoked herring 300 lbs. at a time. Customers came from as far as Milwaukee.

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00:05:23 - Farm census. Feels are useless; inaccurate statistics.

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00:07:36 - No fishing organizations. Assemblyman Lawrence Johnson unhelpful in fighting pollution. Fishermen's leader was Godfrey LaViolette. Changes in water quality discussed.

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00:09:55 - Feelings on over-fishing.

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00:10:54 - Each (father, brother, and himself) had own set of tools. "Saw-rig" held in common; invented by his brother.

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00:12:51 - Pound nets. They fished more of them than most fishermen; continued with father's business. Customers came for fresh fish.

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00:14:18 - Shipping fish. Perch lifted two times a week. His grandfather never fished.

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00:15:52 - Summertime fishing jobs. Mend, tar, boil and dye nets.

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00:17:04 - Father biggest pound net fisherman at Shoemaker's Point. Worked with Chaudoirs building gill nets; helped them mark the nets. Sewed upstairs when it was too cold to go out fishing.

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00:19:40 - Smelt-fishing. Wife's role--she did chores, he slept in truck. (Smelt were fished at night, then Mr. Jeanquart drove to Green Bay.) Competition at fish houses (smelt-fishing, continued)--first ones there had their fish purchased. Once spread unpurchased load as fertilizer.

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00:22:16 - Sons not fishing today--would've if fish were there. Do smelt fishing only.

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00:22:40 - Smelt. Sold to mink ranches ca. 1956.

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00:23:43 - Never fished alewives.

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00:24:07 - Attitudes toward planting of fish by DNR. Doesn't view as problem.

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00:25:17 - Can't enjoy sports fishing after having done commercial fishing.

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00:25:35 - Income by fishing. First few years brought in half of income; later, fewer fish and prices down.

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00:26:36 - Depression. Too young to remember but fishing helped his father out (prices were high at that time). Hauled hay across Bay.

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00:26:47 - His father's income also came from selling goods in Brussels area, bought wholesale in Green Bay. Helped support his wife and 13 children.

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00:29:05 - Family's involvement in fishing; brothers Harry, Harold and 3 brothers-in-law, Ray Farin, Louis Cornet, and George Dufek also fished. His own enjoyment of fishing and why.

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00:30:56 - Compares farming to fishing (workload). Tarred nets in slack period between haying and combining.

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